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Maybe if you could do it aerially/from a hold with the legs extended far forward to get some serious sweep going, but that sounds tough. I don’t know if it would be possible to lift into it from the ground, unless it was lifting into a flag, then swinging the legs forward and back up.
Too tough for me!
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**and I suppose some might make the argument that sex workers cause harm when their customers violate the bonds of a relationship to use those services, but I would argue that this is also counter to feminism because it makes women responsible for men’s choices. If the clerk at the hardware store is not responsible for making sure that the poison you’re buying is for rats and not your family, then the sex worker is not responsible for making sure that her customers aren’t lying to anyone.
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To me, the answer is very simple (sex positive feminist): feminism must be about choice. It’s about women supporting other women in our efforts to explore undiscovered parts of ourselves. If I want to explore my potential by staying at home full-time to be the best mom I can be, you’d support me in that. If you wanted to explore yourself as a sexual being by experimenting in different sexual relationships, I’d support you in that (provided everyone is being safe!).
What’s the common thread there? A feminist view grounded in Mill that as long as what we are doing is done in an effort to seek progression of the self and doesn’t hurt anyone else, we ought to support each other as feminists in our choices regardless of whether or not we would make the same choice.
Perhaps the hugest strength of true feminists is that honest feminism does NOT look down on women who choose not to work outside the home or follow more “traditional” gender roles. A true feminist should not–would not–say to a homemaker that her lifestyle is damaging to women even though those structures in society have certainly been harmful to women in the past. If we can respect another woman who freely chooses to partake in patriarchal structures, we must respect pole dancers and businesswomen and even sex workers. Because the whole point of feminism is not that certain choices are wrong, but that no woman should have to feel pressured into OR bullied for her lifestyle choices.
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AWESOME!!!! Congrats, it’s a sweet move!
I never get a chance to work on this one cause I have the original top loading x pole and I’m not about to try to clamp my legs over the adjustor, ouch!
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Yeah like the clothes you would wear on any given average day. Just not fitness wear…the clothes in your closet that you wouldn’t be wearing anywhere you were going to be poling. Something you think is a cool outfit in your everyday wardrobe. Could even be a challenge to do spontaneously on a day you feel like you look great! And we’ll all have to adjust what we do for what we’re wearing. If your go-to move is a knee hold and your go-to outfit is jeans, that’s part of the challenge!
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When I first started working outside leg hangs on my bad side I thought I was going to strip the skin off my knee pit. But it got better! From there I started working on the superman and…well we all know how that move feels…but it got way, WAY better. Then when I learned the yogini I thought for sure I had turned my tummy to hamburger. But it got better! Then when I learned the Allegra I seriously wondered how people do that move without their inner thighs fleeing in terror from their body at the thought. That one hasn’t gotten better for me yet, but I’m confident that it will!
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*squee!* Thanks for choosing my suggestion! I’ve been reading updates from so many of my fellow members about struggling with our identity as dancers–I know I struggle with it. So why not start answering that question by bringing our everyday selves to the pole? Some of us have alter-egos and personas for pole, and I think that’s great. But all those personas come from inside us, and it’s a part of who we are. Maybe the “persona” can learn something by wearing street clothes, and maybe we can learn something by having that persona in our street clothes. I believe neither of those sides of us should be limited from influencing us all the time!
I’m so excited to see everyone’s videos!
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David explained this a bit in st. Louis…when doing the Jenyne variation, you’re moving both legs at the same time, and the grip between your legs becomes important, remember to push-pull. And you can use your outside hand on top, with the inside hand around waist level; you use the bottom hand to PUSH while you also PUSH your butt out and backwards. Don’t think of trying to lift the legs as much as you are lifting your butt, throwing your booty back and up WHILE you lift the legs. We found for some of us in class it was easier to side climb this way and for some of us it was much harder. If your basic side climb is very secure, you are probably safe to play around with it and observe the way your leg grip changes in the different variations.
I happen to love veena’s lesson for the side climb. She illustrates very well the way your front leg pulls and back leg pushes to use a pretty grip rather than all the grip coming from the knee pit on the top leg.
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I’d just like to kick my opinion in here for whatever it’s worth. I am tallish (5’8″). My pole room dimensions are (I believe) 10’x12′. And it’s not big enough. I don’t have enough room to explore the space, partly because there are huge windows on two walls and a fireplace on one wall leaving only one open wall to play with. Normally then you would shoot video with the wall as background, but the room isn’t big enough to set up a video camera and get the full length of the pole, the full length of the room, and the floor. I have to basically pick one. I can get the floor in if I don’t show the full height of the pole. I can get the full length of the pole, but then it’s a narrow view. Or I can get more width of the room, but you can’t see my head or my legs. I know now that I would rather have either a bigger pole room or (more realistically) a pole area in a larger room. In my next house or apartment, not sure which it will be, I’ll probably try to give myself as much room as possible around it. And I’d ONLY give that up if the difference was setting up in a larger room with carpet or a smaller room with solid floor. But that’s my loathing for carpet talking 😉
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Omg! What luck!
I’ve no idea about your paint, but I suggest you ask Valerie (studio409) as I know she had painted poles, at least at first.
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The sad truth is, that pretty much sounds like something I would do.
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Oh and drop splits! Can’t forget the drop splits. From an upright pole hold and sliding into it, from an upright hold and opening the splits while aerial and then dropping flat to the ground like the Bobbi students do, or from an Aysha bracket hold dropping down to the split-old school club style. 🙂
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Jade drop and chopstick drop. 🙂
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LOL! I’m probably going to be in my uggs or my scrunchy boots like in my recent video. Boots of any kind allowed, particularly of the ass-kicking variety. 😉
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Wow shebangs. That’s an awful lot of hate you’re spewing. And as an apparently “non-paying member,” perhaps you could simply put the money you already aren’t spending on veena’s lessons into some one on one advanced instruction rather than making demands and spewing insults.
Your attitude is callous and completely uncalled for. The basic functions of this website are included in a free service which you are using. If you are dissatisfied with your experiences using a free service, you have the liberty to no longer use the free service. But know that if you insult a member of the community, a community which has welcomed you always, then you are sincerely underestimating the strength of the bonds that run through this community; most of us will not tolerate attempts to poison the water, and you will see repercussions for attempting to do so.