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Which all that really means at the end of the day is that not all stainless steel is alike, and be wary of anyone who assures you that you’ll be fine just because it’s "100% stainless steel". All stainless is made up of lots of different metals, so it pays to ask what grade of stainless it is.
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Pretty simple guidelines for you because you’re so allergic. The lowest stainlessgrade that has a chance to work with metal allergies is 316L. There are higher grades than that up to those that start 316LVM. That grade means the nickel has to be contained in the inside of the metal in a way that’s inert when inside the body. 316LVM is used in pacemakers and such; it’s surgical implant grade. It or titanium will be generally the only body jewelry an allergic person can wear and not react. It’s also more expensive. So I don’t know that you would even see a stainless pole 316L or higher honestly. All stainless steel has nickel in it; it’s just a matter of what state that nickel is in. And 316L, btw, is the grade of stainless used in mall jewelry that you’ve probably had a reaction to. So if you can’t wear cheap stainless body jewelry without going crusty you definitely need 316LVM If you ask what grade of steel they use and it doesn’t begin with 316L, it’s not rated for use even as jewelry and therefore will have more of those metal compounds like nickel that can trigger a severe reaction for an allergic person. Generally industrial grade steels aren’t designed to be in prolonged contact with skin. Obviously for something like pole that’s only going to be an issue for the very allergic.
That said, tg xpole might work. As for the finish wearing on it….it does, but not necessarily after a year. It doesn’t have that kind of set expiration date. And it tends to wear in spots that get heavy use, like where your top hand always goes.
As far as coating or painting your xpole, I think that would damage the finish and increase the likelihood that the chrome would chip off. If chrome chips or scratches, it can’t be repaired, and can have wicked sharp edges that will destroy your hands. Even if you did paint it, you have to remember that taking apart a multiple piece pole for regular cleaning or moving could cause a reaction from handling the uncoated threads and inner parts. And you couldn’t paint the threads or joints because it would interfere with the stability or make them lock up. Ultimately, a one piece permanent pole could be your best bet down the line. For now, I would email customer service of xpole and platinum stages and see what you hear back about metal grades. If you can get an exterior finish like tg that doesn’t react, I’d go with that. And just use gloves when taking it down to clean or wash with soap and warm water and really scrub down your hands after handling the threads since I’m guessing the interiors of all these poles will be industrial grade steel. A hydrocortisone solution wouldn’t go amiss, either (benadryl ointment).
Sorry all my responses have been so wordy!
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Just a disclaimer because it has to be said and no one has yet.
ABSOLUTELY NO KICKING INTO ANY INVERTED MOVE AT ANY TIME, OR FOR ANY REASON.
If you cannot do it as a slow, controlled lift, you cannot do it safely. Injuries reported on studioveena from kicking into basic inverts/inverted choppers incude:
bruised sides/broken blood vessels
spinal problems
pulled and torn muscles in the back and shoulders
chronic pain when iverting
BROKEN RIBS.Veenas lessons are organized by difficulty and include strength training exercises specifially for safe inverting.
I don’t judge self-taught polers. I just don’t want to see anyone get hurt. Everyone needs to know, no kicking! Ever!
This has been a Public Service Announcement from your friendly local PDR. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cyclops.gif
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Omfg typed a huge reply and it got deleted!!!! Basically,two of the non reactive metals are titanium and stainless steel, but only if those metals are surgical/implant grade. Otherwise they will still contain plenty of nickel, sometimes as much as 5%, which is clearly enough to give you a problem. So your basic options are a tension mounted stainless from platinum stages or tg xpole or powder coat lil mynx. Bertysbooboo has one, I know they work. And the titanium coated xpole could work too. Stay away from lil mynx stainless. It’s way too slick. But the powder coated lil mynx might work; if playground poles (which are also powder coated) don’t make you react, neither will lil mynx most likely. And the one hole it leaves when you take out the "plant hook" is so easily spackle-able the landlord will never ever know. And hey, you’ll have fun at the park testing it out!
It all comes down to this: unless the stainless in question is surgical/implant grade, it will still have a higher nickel content. That’s why crappy stainless belly button rings from the mall are reactive but an implant grade stainless ring from a maker like industrial strength or a titanium ring is not reactive. So at the end of the day, you’re probably going to have to write an email to customer service asking what grade of stainless they use. I’ll post a little guide to nickel content by metal rating if you don’t already know the stainless grade scale. Otherwise you’ll probably have to go with something else.
Good luck!
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in our family, we have a saying: "children don’t come with off switches." That means once you’ve become a part of their lives, you don’t turn them away FOR ANY REASON. they’re both your children. They’re both her grandchildren. each kid should get some one-on-one time with grandma in addition to the time they spend together.
You need to tell grandma, in plain un-emotional language, that the two year old doesn’t understand what she’s doing, and you’re not going to have him crying over every visit to grandma’s. And I would stick to your ground: if she can’t treat your children well and look after them adequately, it might be time to say that if she wants to see her grandkids, she can come to your home and visit them both, but she can’t just take one and pretend the other doesn’t exist. She’s in their lives whether she was ready for grandkids or not. She can’t pick and choose now. And they’re WAY too close in age for her to claim the three year old is somehow easier to care for than the two year old.
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Oh…my…god. Oh my GOD!! omigod….OMIGODOMIGODOMIGOD!!!!!
OMG!!!!!
Omg pennies going in the piggy bank RIGHT NOW!!
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I teach pole dancing anywhere between 4-15 hours a week. I still have calluses. The worst one is one my dominant hand at the base of my middle finger. It just goes with poling. Be proud of your calluses, it shows you are working hard at a fun and exciting sport.
Agree. My lil camel hump. When I practice spins, I see a crease in it from being pinched over and over. Then it peels.
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I can’t cartwheel or handspring whatsoever. I don’t quite yet have the strength, and I super-definitely don’t yet have the balance. So I always work on split grips from the top down, going into a split grip straightedge from a standard invert, then drop it to one side into jacknife, then swing one leg around into an aysha. It’s not super pretty yet, but it’s helping me find the balance point for my SG aysha and split grip. Which will in turn help with the handspring.
But I am a weird freak like SissyBuns who got SG aysha before elbow or forearm grip, neither of which I can do yet, literally at all. But, I’ve always had a knack for the flag and its varieties, so I’m working on my flag invert because I know that grip will get me up and over in basically a forearm grip. For me, learning a new move that really challenges me is about transitioning into and out of it in ways which most take advantage of my personal strengths, then modify the move to make that strength more well-rounded and add new components to it. For example, when I learned SM the standard double cup grip was easiest and took advantage of my strong biceps. But then once I learned that I started working on grip variations, and my SM is better overall because of the new control I learned from each new grip and thus using different muscle groups to execute the same move.
That said, if you can’t do aysha or straightedge, think about the horrifying backwards fall that could result out of trying a jacknife before you’re ready and at least use a spotter and a mat or at most reconsider and spend a while working up to it. Of everything I can do in split grip, jacknife is probably the one I’m still least comfortable with, and I work on my split grip literally every heavy practice. (which has only been a little over a month, but still) One thing is for sure, I’ve never done it from a butterfly, but I’m definitely going to give that a try now.
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How about my graduation/official start of life as a big kid/first August EVER that I won’t be going back to school?
But I don’t know if that’s something to celebrate or mourn yet…guess it will depend on whether or not I get this job https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif
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Aha that’s high praise from a warhammer nerd! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif You’re lucky to have a friend like that. That is one pretty enlightened male.
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Wow that makes me so happy!! I remember in the pole and sexuality thread I mentioned how much I wish we could remove the stigma in our minds enough that we could see what children would bring to the sport with proper training. Kids are so creative and focused in their playtime, I bet these children will really beef out the creative and gymnastic aspects of this art.
EDIT TO ADD: of course, if you read the comments on these articles, you see all kinds of parents perpetuating these pole stereotypes that say a woman can’t possibly be on the pole without it being sexually explicit. But you just know that videos of these kids will make it to the Internet. And once people see that what they are doing is a true showcase of gymnastic skill and not sexual at all, only the most bigoted will hold fast. I saw a lot of parents commenting that, while they know pole isn’t all about stripping, they still wouldn’t let their kids do it because of the stigma. So I think if this is successful it will be a step forward for all of us in the public eye.
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Oooh I’ll have to ask her to send me the info or put a post in pole jams. I just started deleting my facebook today. Their terms of use have finally gotten too intrusive for me.
And vdance, what about if you’re stuck with carpet? My landlord put this god awful patterned Berber all over the house and it eats my feet for breakfast. I was thinking about a leather soled slipper because I literlally can’t pirouette on it. *can’t* >_<
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Omigod YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! I promise you all right here, right now that nonmatter where I am, whether I’m working, or what I’m doing, I WILL BE THERE!!!! I don’t care if dates are tba you go right ahead and put me down as a "hell yes!!!!!!" https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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Hi There,
I manage the studio and am also an Instructor. What part of IL do you live in as I may know another studio not all of them show up in google. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
Thanks for the kind words isisandshiva. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
How awesome of you to reply! I’m in Decatur, IL. It’s exactly halfway between Champaign and Springfield, with each being a manageable hour-ish away. If you know of anywhere in the area, I’m doing there tomorrow! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif
The responses about your studio have been so awesome and sincere, I will definitely have to figure some means of checking it out.
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I saw the difference in price…problem is Chicago is like, home home, where my parents live. So I could come up to do a class, but I live/work/educate myself about 3 hours south of there, so I don’t think I could use all 4 before they expire in a month, plus I checked their lessons and you have to do one of their intro to pole classes before you can take any others. I totally understand that, as a studio that’s a must to protect themselves legally, but it would mean I would have to plan like 5 visits to Chicago in a month, spending 6 hours in the car round trip each time. Oh my, the gas cost… https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif I really, really, REALLY wish they didn’t expire in a month, or I would totally buy myself the 4 lessons. It wouldn’t be a problem if I were local, but there’s just nothing around here literally at all. I’ve googled half to death. And I don’t have anywhere at my parents’ house to pole, either not enough space or suspended ceiling, so every time I’m home I have pole separation anxiety.
I wish they’d make an exception for one broke student. 4 lessons would probably last me 2.5-3 months. I really wish I had the support and social interaction of a studio and classes to attend every once in a while without destroying my budget.
