Scarlett Honey aka Lola Grace
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I completely agree Beaniegoesnuts. I think if your on static and you can pull power tricks then who needs a spin? But I'm hald trickster, half dancer, and the dancer in me loves the artistic, pretty, fluid movements of spinning on a spinny pole. *Sigh*
No it's not pole dancy, it's Bobbi's amateur pole comp, held on Thursday night at Pure Platinum in Sydney CBD. Im starting to get nervous – especially since i still havnt chosen a song! Yikes! 🙂
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Thanks girls for all your advice. I know some dancers can get some serious momentum on a static pole, and actually make it look like it's spinning, but I havn't been on one for over a year, so Im just really nervous and unfamiliar. Sassafrassle, great point, I was thinking about how I'm gunna make sure I position myself so when I pull a trick the audience sees the right angle…. ugh its just hard cause I wont be able to practice on a static pole until the actual night. Oh well, thanks for the help everyone, ill be crossing my fingers! 🙂 xo
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Or any links to instructional vids on drops? I'm dying to get the hang of them – I've tried at home but I cant slide when I want to! So tricky!
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Haha PopwerTwirl I have the opposite problem! I've always been a bit of a natural when it comes to dancing, but never had any formal training (other than pole) so freestyling is easy for me but learning routines takes me FOREVER. I get really anxious about remembering the next step fast enough to do it on time…. I am definitely more of a dancer than a trickster, and more of a freestyle child than a choro girl. I guess there are pros and cons to both…
Lots of sound advice already here – drill transition/dance moves until they feel natural, and practice them in a combo so that you can easily move in and out of them. Finding music that just makes you want to move really helps too. Sometimes thats fast-paced rocknroll, sometimes emotive, instrumental, slow tempo pieces. Personally, I think that dancing to a slower song makes me a better dancer, because it gives me the time to be really precise with my movement, to extend my lines and emphasise flow and fluidity…. I know transitions like climbing or walking/spinning can seem dull, but if you tweak them just a little by adding a unique hand gesture or a bent leg for example, you can make them artistic and beautiful in their own right.
My problem is that I get so comfortable with my spinny/clim combos that I really need to force myself to alter them and change something just to stop from getting too predictable! 😛
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@FuzzyNavel thanks for the tip – I must have missed that lesson. On it. 🙂 Not a bad idea to make some videos on advanced tricks for eahcother… but Veena has covered a lot of them already… the only thing I could probably help with is flexy back stuff, like handstand bacnbends or upside-down, twisty backbvend things (sorry not sure what to call them)…. im sure others have more to offer though. 🙂 xo
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Ah yes, I know all about long distances – Australia is so far away from EVERYTHING! haha lol I guess its having the mula and the time… but it would be so good to just pole jam and train intensely with heaps of fellow enthusiasts and inspiring instructors, all while being in holiday mode! 🙂 Oh right, I forgot there was an events section on here… ill have to remember to check it out regularly.
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Could I add to Shelectra's wish list of pole moves? Just to share ideas Veena, I understand if you select only some or take a while to get through them all.
I'd like to learn:
– Drops
– One-handed flying spin (not sure what its called sorry) Oona Kivela does it so well.
– The handstand V into right-leg spin that Alethea does at 1:45 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG9cQZvpkvY
– Elbow-grip Aysha backbend
there are heaps more but i cant think of them right now. Great topic though! 🙂
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I own a 38mm brass spinny pole (thats what I use in all my vids) and I love it. But its all ive ever known – I trained at Bobbis Pole Studio in Sydney and all their poles are 38mm. In fact I think most Austrlian Pole Comps (Like Miss Pole Dance Australia) use38mm – so they're very popular over here. Brass is graet for grip, it doesnt rust – but it is expensive. Theoretically, it should be easier for us to grip a pole with our hands thats smaller, but im not sure about leg holds… But when Alethea Austin was in Oz recently she said 38mm brass spinny is now her favourite kind of pole…. and I assume she has tried most… so there u go. Hope that helps.
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Glad you decided against the concrete, for one, it;s a really toxic substance that is so un-environmentally friendly, and two, OUCH! I'm sure lino will be nice, and you can choose a certain colour/style/pattern that will suit the rest of your house or give your pole room a great look. I've found some fantastic HUGE mirrors from 2nd hand shops. They may be a tiny bit rusted or scratched but they r so cheap and easy to buy. Not sure how you would go abotu hanging them though…. I just lean mine against the wall but I guess your puppy dogs wont like that. ANyway, goodluck with it all! 🙂
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Oliviaa has some really good points. I stripped for one year in Sydney, Australia, so I cant give you specific details about strip clubs in Europe. But from my experience, as long as you choose a club that has a good reputation and doesn't side as a brothel, then no one will try to push u into prostitution. On the contrary, my managers had strict rules about not allowing customers to touch you, not crossing a certain line, and never offering extras (but our club was very upper-class and exclusive). There will be clubs where they want their girls to offer everything – so just choose your club carefully.
You do have to be quite mentally strong to be a (happy) stripper. It's good you feel comfortable with the concept of earning money from your body, and you enjoy performing/exhibitionisn/nudity. You have to be tough because there will be cutomers who reject you when you offer them a dance, or who talk crap to you. Don't take any of it personally, it's just business and you are only there to make money.
As Oliciaa said, don't drink too much (one or two drinks will give you some liquid courage and keep your energy going through the night, but dont get drunk – you lose control and rsepect). Stay away from drugs, and dont get into dramas with the other working girls. Be friendly, but mind your own business. When first starting at a club, the girls may be bitches because you r new and competition, but once you've settled in for a month or so they will warm up to you.
The best advice I can give you is keep a strict line between your work and your personal life. I never gave out my number or real name to customers, never met them after work for a few drinks or whatever – even when I genuinely made friends with customers, our interactions were always inside the club, under surveillance by the cameras.
Tips for stripping/dancing – even if u dont feel it, fake super-confidence. STrut your stuff on stage and work it, show your enjoyment, customers will be attracted to that. The slower you dance, the sexier – stripping is a different style to performing a pole routine – some cutsomers will appreciate and admire your pole tricks, but most just love watching sultry/sexy/slow floor work and body rolls etc basic stuff.
I quit stripping after a year because I was getting exhausted, and I was getting sick of listening to men and entertaining them…. I love to perform, it's a thrill being on stage, but I hated being at their beck and call. However at first it was really empowering, it makes you feel like as a woman, men are at your mercy and you hold all the cards…. u know what I mean? But as Oliviaa said, the money isnt as easy to make as it used to be… you really need to hustle and talk to them forver before they'll buy a private dance or spend big. But most of this stuff you will learn on the job, just keep your ears open, watch the experienced stippers who make the big bucks, mimic their moves, their opening lines, their attitude etc. A few shifts and you will feel like you've been doing it forever, so dont worry about the nerves.
It sounds to me like you would suit it well, so go for it and good luck! 🙂
Oh, ps: You may be like me and only want to do it for a short period of time, so make it worth it – save as much money as u can – earning huge amounts can make u go a bit silly and splurge on stupid things like luxury make-up and clothes etc – you will be glad you put aside money later on when you go back to a normal-paying job – you want to be able to see the profit from all your efforts. 🙂
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Great vid hun! Your costume and make-up suited marylin manson and the heavy metal music perfectly. Hot boots, loved your floorwork and those one handed spins were great 🙂
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my youtube address is: http://www.youtube.com/user/LolaOceanessGrace?feature=mhee
Would love to connect with all the veena dancers on youtube. Yay! 🙂
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I've just recetnly conquered the superman but it still hurtrs sooo much!
Besides the normal invert leg hang emthod, I can get into it from a Jamilla, open legs, by sliding my upper leg in between my upper arm and the pole, but its less than graceful… Or your can get into from a Jade(Horizontal Split), by bringing both feet together above your head and then pushing/flipping yourself away from pole into superman…. know what i mean? I saw it done on a youtube vid… Goodluck!
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Hi Guys, uploading my first video to youtube right now! My user name is LolaOceanessGrace… If u fancy my style please subscribe or brefriend me… As its a whole new Alias I'm completely friendless and unknown on youtube at the moment! :S I need to add some of you as well! xox