Rachel Osborne
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So if I have metal joists I should definitely not use a tension pole?
Because any up-pressure into the flexing joist and it’s game over?
In which case, a Veena/Mynx or PS looks best bet – am assuming drilling a ceiling mount into a metal joist is less likely to cause up-flex than bracing against a joist?
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Agreed. It’s a basic dancer stretch. Well, a basic fitness stretch, touching toes.
Beighton test is really a first point of call for general practitioners with 10 mins to assess patients though I think. For most people coming to a dr complaining of joint pain in a surgery a quick ‘can you put palms to floor with straight legs’ would be a challenge and combined with the other tests could give a GP an idea… Having said that no GP has ever considered hypermobility when I’ve presented with joint pain or injury. I always have to tell them then self-refer to a physio or sports osteo.
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Joist not joint damn you Iphone
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Thanks v much for that. I can see why small area of high-intensity stress could cause too much pressure (damage to wood floors from stilettos comes to mind).
Aren’t steel joints quite common though? I can’t believe x pole has survived endless disgruntled householders with trashed ceilings and minimal publicity all these years.
Also surely the stress on a small area of a slim steel joist of a pole bolted in instead of tension-braced is about the same (bit vague about physics so possibly completely wrong here)
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^^ excellent post! I have never seen it explained so clearly. Also women who aren’t yoga/pilates/dance-trained but very fit might well experience same issues.
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Thanks v much for replies. He used an electronic stud finder and we located three joists all running 16 inches apart. We also did the knock/tap rest. We marked them with pencil and he suggested using a small nail or smallest possible drill bit to check when installing.
He knows zip about pole installation and I said I wanted to install a vertical bar / piece of exercise equipment that used either a spreader plate to hold in place and was removable and tension mounted, or had a small permanent attachment the size of a plant hook to screw into.
I was a bit confused by his musings on ‘new build aluminium joists’ as I thought well, our ceiling is our neighbours floor and it must be strong enough to support that! And aluminium is soft – why would it be used in joists? Maybe he meant metal (as opposed to wood/rCJ) and he was worried about it flexing with a spreader plate braced up and pushing against it?
But I should have thought x- poles were used in thousands of new build homes with these kind of steel joists?
I would rather not drill in as we rent – but I don’t want to trash the ceiling either! The place we are in is about a dozen years old or less.
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You’re not sensitive to any of the pole cleaning products or the metal of the pole are you? Just asking cos a girl in one class I go to gets sore skin from the alcohol.
The bruising and nipping/tenderness and sore muscles is normal when learning new tricks though 🙁
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Yes I am poised to order – as long as I find out if my apparently aluminium ceiling joists can handle it (see other thread).
Still nothing apart from ‘new stock in May’ on the USA site.
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Bumping thread cos found this handy sports physio article
http://thesportsphysio.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/hypermobility-and-sport/Also to say I did yoga today and there was an instructor in the class who was hypermobile herself and gave me some good tips as one hypermobile person to another:
Work within the normal range of motion for a normal/beginner person, never at your max extension, especially when inverting or doing ‘bound’ moves ( in pole this would be flexy moves or TG etc where you’re out of natural body alignment)
Rather than push out and into a move, try to find the correct position and then close in on the move by firmly supporting yourself in it with awareness of all your body parts working harmoniously and powerfully together.
Try to think about opening the body and enfolding into a move – creating space and gentle strength in the muscles instead of stretching, hanging, forcing or flopping.
Use breath work to control and stay steady and strong. If in doubt go slow, slow, slower leaving yourself room to deepen the move after a few breaths. Never push straight into full extension: work at 60% of where you could go and with perfect form, breathe into 75%, hold it with 100% attention.
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I noticed you were managing it with a bent to arm but dirdy’s top arm is straight? Also she starts by arching and looking at the ceiling, all her energy is about arching up – then bending the bottom arm in to bring her head to the pole, then she’s still looking up as she does the reach across chest to grab pole and roll?
Hope you get it! I can’t wait to try it:) it’s a lovely move -
Like this…http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn_lnoQDBWE
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At my class we do log rolls lying on the floor on tummy and pulling up into cobra/back arch then down again; this looks like the same idea but harder. So maybe try the log roll first?
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I always think someone should edit a short film of home polers with random pets wandering into the shot and set it to music…
Love the pics.
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Apologies for lowering the tone… One of my teachers gave me a great CAR/layback tip (I love CKR hate CAR). She said look at your thighs in the mirror as you stand, ankles crossed, legs not turned in and bum not clenched.
Now turn your thighs in and tuck in your tail and CLENCH like you have eaten sonething that disagrees with you and you’re trying not to fart or pee your pants. See how the gap between your thighs is gone. Look at how solid your glutes, quads, inner thighs, abs have gone. Pop your hand in between your thighs. See, you are crushing your fingers!
Okay now lie on floor and do it up the pole and pull up.
And if you’re still slippy, dab grip aid in between your thighs!
Good luck 🙂
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Yeah, I want it on a t shirt.^^^
Or booty shoots.